brightflashes
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About myself.: My boyfriend can beat up batman and that's all you need to know.
OP Type: I use critical thinking so ...
Gender: lol nice try. A/S/L?
Location: Australia, United States
Interests: Jung
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Post by brightflashes on Jun 19, 2018 16:33:55 GMT
Here's a thread to discuss all things Kristen Leo and the typing process. I have gone through the videos over the past 24 hours and have come to a preliminary type. The rest of the week will be spent trying to prove she's not this type. Maybe I'll change my mind; maybe I won't, but this time I'm going to just use myself as a reference. Still, I think there's quite a lot of value in sharing notes and comparing where we are within the OP typing system.
Last week I learned the valuable lesson that to be truly objective, I can't be talking about this stuff until after I come to a solid type. The value in comparing notes is way too high, though, to leave out at this point.
Use this thread to post any notes, observations, etc... about your type for Kristen Leo. I look forward to reading them once I've come to a very strong conclusion.
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brightflashes
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Wut Does This Do?
Posts: 48
About myself.: My boyfriend can beat up batman and that's all you need to know.
OP Type: I use critical thinking so ...
Gender: lol nice try. A/S/L?
Location: Australia, United States
Interests: Jung
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Post by brightflashes on Jun 21, 2018 15:01:37 GMT
**ZERO typing spoilers in this post**
So I typed Kristen Leo within the first 36 hours of beginning the OP typing process. I thought that this might mean that I must have missed something - isn't thorough typing supposed to take a bit longer than that? I decided to continue to watch videos of her every day to build my case and double check. I haven't found anything that has gone against my original typing.
I wonder: Once one comes to a firm conclusion about what type a person is, does that make them less likely to see something they might be missing? I wonder how long I need to sit with a type before coming to a firm conclusion about it.
Related, without spoiling what you have come up with, has the typing process been any easier or harder with Kristen this week?
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Post by alkene on Jun 22, 2018 2:56:38 GMT
I am finding myself having to reverify a lot. And this is hard because I am extremely agitated by her. I am very eager to TALK about what I am seeing but I don't want to interfere with the objecting process by talking about what I am seeing. So I've just been furiously writing. I have like... 4 pages of text, have the checklist filled out...and pretty sure of her type and just trying to be certain of the animals.
When can we share checklists?!? lol
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brightflashes
Newbie
Wut Does This Do?
Posts: 48
About myself.: My boyfriend can beat up batman and that's all you need to know.
OP Type: I use critical thinking so ...
Gender: lol nice try. A/S/L?
Location: Australia, United States
Interests: Jung
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Post by brightflashes on Jun 22, 2018 9:45:58 GMT
I am finding myself having to reverify a lot. And this is hard because I am extremely agitated by her. I am very eager to TALK about what I am seeing but I don't want to interfere with the objecting process by talking about what I am seeing. So I've just been furiously writing. I have like... 4 pages of text, have the checklist filled out...and pretty sure of her type and just trying to be certain of the animals. When can we share checklists?!? lol I'll be taking another hour today (probably soon, even) to cross check again, but so far my initial typing hasn't been proven wrong by myself. You won't interfere with my personal typing of her, but I don't know how that would play out with others. I guess just put a spoiler warning up so that readers will know that you're including things in your post that might convey a certain type or not. I have no problem sharing mine after I do my final cross checking today.
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brightflashes
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Wut Does This Do?
Posts: 48
About myself.: My boyfriend can beat up batman and that's all you need to know.
OP Type: I use critical thinking so ...
Gender: lol nice try. A/S/L?
Location: Australia, United States
Interests: Jung
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Post by brightflashes on Jun 22, 2018 12:27:42 GMT
**SPOILER WARNING: THE BELOW CONTAINS MY FINAL TYPING OF KRISTEN LEO** Checklist & notes attached in a .pdf file. Highlight text below to see my type. FM Ti/Si SB/C(P)
My "back up" type is FM Ti/Si SC/B(P)
I*edited to reflect the change I made on 6/24 Attachments:Kristen Leo 1.pdf (168.95 KB)
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Post by alkene on Jun 22, 2018 20:31:26 GMT
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brightflashes
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Wut Does This Do?
Posts: 48
About myself.: My boyfriend can beat up batman and that's all you need to know.
OP Type: I use critical thinking so ...
Gender: lol nice try. A/S/L?
Location: Australia, United States
Interests: Jung
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Post by brightflashes on Jun 22, 2018 21:44:46 GMT
Here is my typing, spoilers on the attachment: I really enjoyed reading your analysis. I'm glad that we have a few things in common. I didn't realize until after I uploaded my notes that some notes are actual incomplete sentences and thoughts lol. I made the notes not thinking that I'd be sharing them, so sorry if that threw you off. Anyway, I love the case you built and I'm interested in seeing what other people are getting/got and what Shannon and Dave say.
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Post by alkene on Jun 23, 2018 2:51:57 GMT
That's actually how I make my notes too, so it makes sense to me. I just went back and organized them for clarity. Now we just need TURI to post so we can discuss. I definitely understand your conclusion as well annnnddd u/Turi. This isn't reddit. How do you tag someone to come do this!?? Turi
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Post by hornpipe2 on Jun 23, 2018 17:14:12 GMT
I've heard some Kristen Leo vids and she talks quite a lot about her causes. She is vegan, anti-consumerist, anti-animal-cruelty, and tries to ethically source the things she does buy. The causes overlap a lot with those of hippies, PETA, green movements, and so on.
The Shannon and Dave have come up with their four types of people and what they look like - e.g. the Douchebag (highly scientific term) for the guy who wears suits to the wrong occasions. I think it's likely some members will confuse their "Hippie dippy" appearance with the "hippie" causes Kristen Leo embraces. Don't fall into that trap! Someone's causes do not make their personality... it's how they work towards them, how they push that onto others, and how personal values influence their actions.
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Post by hornpipe2 on Jun 23, 2018 17:31:15 GMT
I have just been informed that the proper term is "Yippy Skippy", not "Hippy Dippy". Please disregard.
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brightflashes
Newbie
Wut Does This Do?
Posts: 48
About myself.: My boyfriend can beat up batman and that's all you need to know.
OP Type: I use critical thinking so ...
Gender: lol nice try. A/S/L?
Location: Australia, United States
Interests: Jung
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Post by brightflashes on Jun 24, 2018 20:23:09 GMT
I just watched some new stuff with Kristen to see if my initial type held up. I started seeing something I didn't see before, so I did end up changing my mind. However, the change is very small. All my notes remain the same, but I've just changed one of her saviors and her animals a bit. My new type for her is below. Highlight below to see my new typing for her.
Final Typing: FM Ti/Si SB/C Backup: FM Ti/Si SC/B
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Post by Turi on Jun 25, 2018 22:26:51 GMT
My typing of Kristen will be terrible (again) - I've been sick for the last week and have been spending a fair amount of time working on basically written OP notes, covering everything in the classes and in the YT vids so we've got it all 'written out' as well - this is taking a while - and, due to being sick, I haven't put as much time into as I'd like.
That said, I have watched a couple of Kristen vids from earlier in the week and basically have been running through at the moment - right now, my notes are indicating that she is possibly Tribe above Self and Organize over Gather though I'm not sold either way (and won't be, the class will be up in a few hours so this is horrendously bad) - and, I believe she may be a Decider over an Observer - if I get time I'll share my reasoning.
So right now, I suppose I'd be looking at an ExxJ, and possibly a Blast one (Ni/Si after the Te/Fe). I haven't determined the letters yet - my observations right now are that she is super sensory - everything is fact fact fact, not a whole lot of abstract anything going on and she tends to literally show everything she talks about on-screen via editing, not to mention her channel has a whole heap of things re: fashion etc.
In and of itself that wouldn't mean anything, but considering I've already built a (tiny little) case for S over N, it adds a little fuel to the fire and falls in line with the pattern - in the video that was linked by OP, she appears to be running straight through an Si perspective in accordance with the Sensing Se vs Si video - this isn't a one-off either as this way of presenting things is consistent throughout her videos - she also does the thing barpantrytalk did in the ST vs NF video where she is just reading straight from the source - that's Sensory or at least, that's how an aspect of it was depicted back in that ST vs NF class.
This will have to be double-checked if I get time, as in the anxiety vid she notes being someone that is usually excited about the future and planning for the future and not really someone that lives in the here and now - this is anecdotal old MBTI BS but it might hint at a mentality that is geared towards imagination over facts (N over S) so I'll have to make sure she's not peacocking the S if I get a chance - she may be using S to support her N position which honestly, given the vid OP linked, doesn't seem unlikely and it does indeed have a similar vibe to some of Casey Neistats vids (can't explain wtf that vibe is and Kristen is more literal than Casey in explaining it).
Kristen reads directly from sources, as in, verbatim - this isn't Phil DeFranco gathering a heap of information and synthesizing it, this is somebody gathering information and sharing it verbatim as is.
EDIT: I've watched a little more, and wouldn't be surprised if she's actually N over S and is using S to support her N abstract points etc - she tends to not so much 'freak out' over Sensory as much as Rick Beato does, but she's got a little something similar there going on - also, her latest video talks about how all of her things are falling apart around her, her camera, her phone, her laptop, her fan etc etc this is all actually due to not respecting the Sensory - now she's not freaking out majorly over this so I'm not sure how serious of a demon this is - it might also be a demon N of sorts not seeing how not respecting the sensory etc will play out into the future/in your imagination, so who knows.
I guess I'm torn on a few things and unfortunately don't have time to really figure anything out before the class is up - there's a case for Observer over Decider, and vica versa - a lot of us, we, you, them speak which would indicate Decider, and there's also her being so inclusive of others etc and wanting people to get on her side, spread the message etc etc which is Tribe. I think, I would place her tribe above self.
With regards to organize/gather, I think she's more organize but I'm not sure whether it's S or N because I can see arguments for both.
I haven't got time to really provide a decent typing of her, my guesstimate is Fe/Ni or Fe/Si.
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Post by marishimo on Jun 26, 2018 0:13:48 GMT
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